Jules Kirby says her bigoted High Society remarks were “scripted,” but interview video suggests otherwise

Last week, The CW debuted High Society, a docudrama following Tinsley Mortimer and other New York socialites including Jules Kirby and Paul Johnson Calderon. Despite Tinsley’s headline-generating life and the latter two being reprehensible and horrifying human beings, the show was The CW’s “least-watched series premiere this season,” with only 1.26 million viewers.

But since then it’s gotten attention because of horrible comments made by Jules Kirby. On the first episode, she says, “My friends do tend not to be homosexuals, or fat or Jewish people and black guys, and I only like white guys. I use the N-word sometimes, and I really think it she be okay to say. My dream is to work for the United Nations.”

After the episode aired, Jules insisted she was scripted and playing a character, although she didn’t mention why she was okay with being portrayed as a racist or homophobe. She wrote on Facebook, according to the New York Post, “I am sorry if you were offended. The show is scripted, and we are given lines and characters. My grandmother is married to a Jew … Everything was cut and pasted to make it look like I was a stupid bitch, and I regret that they do not do a better job of saying it is a docusoap, not a reality show.”

But now TV Guide has posted raw video of the interview that her comments were taken from, presumably provided by The CW or the show’s producers, and it is interesting because it shows how editors cut down her long, pause-filled interview answers and made a sentence out of them.

It also provides some additional context, like when a producer asks her why she would use the n-word, and she says, “The thing is, I don’t say it derogatorily, I say it like I say dude.” But then the producer asks her, “Are you a tolerant person?” and Jules says, “No, I’m definitely not tolerant,” and later says, “it’s not like I hate gay people.”

In other words, her comments were slightly more nuanced than they were in the condensed version that aired, but it’s clear she’s not being fed lines. The sentence that aired isn’t one she spoke from start to finish, but it certainly isn’t inaccurate.

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Andy Dehnart is a journalist who has covered reality television for more than 15 years and created reality blurred in 2000. A member of the Television Critics Association, his writing and criticism about television, culture, and media has appeared on NPR and in Playboy, Buzzfeed, and many other publications. Andy, 36, also directs the journalism program at Stetson University in Florida, where he teaches creative nonfiction and journalism. He has an M.F.A. in nonfiction writing and literature from Bennington College. More about reality blurred and Andy.